From vicente@cay.oan.es Wed Oct 27 08:51:55 MET 1999 Received: from siva.cay.oan.es (siva.cay.oan.es [193.146.252.16]) by picasso.geod.uni-bonn.de with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.8) id IAA20779; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:51:52 +0200 (METDST) Received: from polifemo (vicente@polifemo [193.146.252.30]) by siva.cay.oan.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA10677; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:50:40 +0200 (METDST) From: Pablo de Vicente Reply-To: vicente@cay.oan.es Organization: Observatorio Astronomico Nacional To: Brian Corey , vicente@cay.oan.es Subject: Re: Little test at Yebes with distributor Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:44:42 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: petrov@picasso.geod.uni-bonn.de, aen@haystack.mit.edu, baa@casa.usno.navy.mil, dgg@aquila.gsfc.nasa.gov, hase@wettzell.ifag.de, mueskens@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de, nothnage@picasso.geod.uni-bonn.de, sorgente@hp138.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de, tme@cygx3.usno.navy.mil, vlbi@oan.es, weh@ivscc.gsfc.nasa.gov References: <199910262111.RAA01990@dopey.haystack.edu> In-Reply-To: <199910262111.RAA01990@dopey.haystack.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99102708504000.18828@polifemo> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: R Dear Brian >I do have a quibble with a couple of your numbers, however. As you say, >a change of 200 us on the counter corresponds to a real change in delay >of 1 ns (divide by 2e5, not 2.5e5). But with a corresponding temperature >change of 12.4 K, that makes the sensitivity 80 ps/C, not 8 ps/C. If >I did the math wrong and the sensitivity is 8 ps/C, then the auxiliary >distributor is not to blame. But if it really is 80 ps/C, then I think >it explains most (although certainly not all -- I'm working on the >epicycles, Leonid) of the correlator anomalies, including the high delay >rates and discrepant multiband delays. At 80 ps/C, the delay rate will >be 1 ps/s for a temperature change of 1 C in 80 seconds, which is >consistent with the temperature rates right after the air conditioner >turns on or off. And at 1 ps/s over a few minutes, delay errors of >several hundred ps can accumulate. > Of course Brian, I am ashamed to have made such a silly fault. the scale factor is 2e5 (5MHz/25Hz) and I dialed one 0 excess in my calculator and that made 8ps/C. The correct value is of course 80ps/C, which means the distributor does not comply with its specifications. Pablo. ________________________________________________________ Pablo de Vicente (vicente@oan.es), http://www.oan.es, OAN Spain