From bec@haystack.mit.edu Tue Oct 26 23:14:41 MET 1999 Received: from dopey.haystack.edu (dopey.haystack.edu [192.52.61.54]) by picasso.geod.uni-bonn.de with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.8) id XAA19569; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:14:35 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from bec@localhost) by dopey.haystack.edu (8.8.6 (sendmail_886_v2)/8.8.6) id RAA01990; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:11:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Corey Message-Id: <199910262111.RAA01990@dopey.haystack.edu> Subject: Re: Little test at Yebes with distributor To: vicente@cay.oan.es Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:11:18 EDT Cc: petrov@picasso.geod.uni-bonn.de, aen@haystack.mit.edu, baa@casa.usno.navy.mil, dgg@aquila.gsfc.nasa.gov, hase@wettzell.ifag.de, mueskens@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de, nothnage@picasso.geod.uni-bonn.de, sorgente@hp138.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de, tme@cygx3.usno.navy.mil, vlbi@oan.es, weh@ivscc.gsfc.nasa.gov In-Reply-To: <99102621511800.18208@polifemo>; from "Pablo de Vicente" at Oct 26, 99 9:46 pm X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.18] Status: R Dear Pablo, > Does this sensitivity explain the values seen at the correlator? Yes, I think it does! Very nice work -- thanks for doing the test so quickly. (Like Leonid, I was surprised to learn you had a ground unit, as I too had noticed that the Yebes logs contain no cable cal data.) I do have a quibble with a couple of your numbers, however. As you say, a change of 200 us on the counter corresponds to a real change in delay of 1 ns (divide by 2e5, not 2.5e5). But with a corresponding temperature change of 12.4 K, that makes the sensitivity 80 ps/C, not 8 ps/C. If I did the math wrong and the sensitivity is 8 ps/C, then the auxiliary distributor is not to blame. But if it really is 80 ps/C, then I think it explains most (although certainly not all -- I'm working on the epicycles, Leonid) of the correlator anomalies, including the high delay rates and discrepant multiband delays. At 80 ps/C, the delay rate will be 1 ps/s for a temperature change of 1 C in 80 seconds, which is consistent with the temperature rates right after the air conditioner turns on or off. And at 1 ps/s over a few minutes, delay errors of several hundred ps can accumulate. If you have nothing better to do and would like to play with the setup a bit more, you might try comparing two outputs (say, the ones used in Europe50 to drive the receiver LO and phase cal) from the auxiliary distributor. But the test you've done was the critical one. --Brian P.S. to Leonid: What do the fringe phases look like during Europe50 scan 228-135300 (the scan for which you've plotted the phase cal)?